Kettadhum koduppavane Krishna Krishna..
This is a post intended only to express my feelings on my visit to ISKCON, and absolutely NO offense meant to the society (en solren-na I havent yet formed what I want to write yet, edhavadhu ekku thappa oru stmt vittutu mattida koodadhilaya :D adhan, but loooong post, beware! )
Nethu Jenmashtami, so I had been to the ISKCON temple here in Soho street. Naan ISKCON devotee kidayadhu, but I was curious to know about it and to see how the celebration is. So seekirama velai ellam mudichuttu veetuku 6-ke vandhu, ready aagi romba seekirama 9:00-ke veetai vittu kilambitten. The festival was supposedly till 1:00 AM, and had begun in the morning.
1 national rail, 2 underground tubes pidichu andha idathuku pogumpodhu it was around 10:30. Ulla nuzhainja udane a lady said hare krishna and edho sandana namam vachanga, and I didnt know I was supposed to say Hare krishna, and I said hello. Appuram as I went in, I saw that a foreign sanyasi was lecturing in the main hall, but I couldn't get in coz there was no space. Seri-nu andha chinna area-va suthitrundhen, it is actually a residence with the main hall in the first floor, and a room upstairs and an affiliated restaurant downstairs. So keezha mela ellam parthutrundhen.
Then I sat down on the stairs, and was watching people..2 ladies nalla vambu pesitrundhanga, 4 young girls were selling kitchen towels, fany necklaces saying the devotees can gift to Krishna (seriously, kitchen towel vachittu avar enna pannuvaru? So I decided maybe they give the money to some non-profit org or they give away the towels to some non-profit org) but most of them were chanting hare rama hare krishna with the rudraksha mala hidden inside a bag, indha bag avanga kaila mattikaranga..en? adhuku neat-a andha malaiya kailaye vachikalame?
Then keezha vandhen, and I got into a discussion on "why Krishna consciousness, appadi enna krishnar qualify aarar"-nu. Now, I am not saying Krishna shouldnt be, but like I said I was curious to know about the society, and I needed a good answer to convince myself. So why not Vishnu consciousness (afterall Vishnu-oda avataram dhane krishnar) or Brahma or Shiva or even Lakshmi? Oru foreigner was chanting nearby, so avarai kooptu kettom. Naan indha question ketta udane romba neram yosichar (idhellam therinjudhane accept pannirupar Krishnarai God-a? En yosichar therila), and he said "Krishna is the superior God, and the others are demi gods according to mythology; you know, he is the king, and the other gods are ministers in his kingdom".
"But, I have read a few mythologies, nowhere does it say Krishnar is king and others are ministers..." (innangada idhu, ippadi naama padichadhe illaye?!)
"Oh well, umm...there is this story where Brahma hides Krishna's friend in a cave, and Krishna manifests himself as his friend, and when Brahma returns after sometime, he finds the friend alive"
(Idhu enna kadhai, naan padichadhe illaye) "oh yeah?"
"And in some other story, they say that Krishna is the king"
"which story?"
"have you read Krishna book? it is said in that.. "
"But Krishna is an incarnate of Vishnu, right?"
"yeah, vishnu and krishna are two forms of energies"
"so why did you choose Krishna energy, what makes it better than the other?"
"umm..maybe another person will be able to tell you better, my english isnt good"
**Bulb** ada enakudhan! No offense meant, aana oruthar Krishnar-ayo illa Vishnuvayo Hindu religion-la eduthukarar-na he will have his own reasons - enaku kuladeivam, vinayagar azhaga irukar, krishnar ennoda friend madhiri adhu idhu-nu. But adhe complete faith to the extent of having a kudumi and wearing saffron cloth and chanting the mantra, and not even from the religion, you need to know why you are laying your faith on, or atleast why you have accepted the fact that this God is superior. But ippadi matter-e theriyama Krishnar-na?
Naan, being an agnostic, am trying to find the truth behind divinity (or the lack of it), so ennoda idea behind having this discussion was to get somewhere near the truth behind divinity (Krishnar-o shiva-vo, yara irundhalum avar divine-a, is he the entity I am searching for) and place my trust, avalodhan. Che che, naan desperate soul ellam kidayadhu, but I believe every human needs an entity to place trust and belief on, so that he can shift his burden on that entity. Ethanai naaldhan en kodumai endhu endhu-ne sollikaradhu, I need a scapegoat to say needhan idhuku karanam :)) j/k, but I think I have made my point.
So oru mutru peradha question-oda, I went into the mainhall for the chanting before the harathi, and everyone was so passionately singing hare rama hare krishna mantra. Oru foreigner music ellam pottu padrar, and the crowd was repeating it, and i also joined coz i liked it. Close to 12 AM, thideernu oru ponnunga kootam barged in and stood before the screen near me..enaku sema kadupu, naanga inga nikkarom thideernu vandhu muttitu nindha enna artham-nu. I realized that the screen was hiding Lord Krishna, and that they had come for a front-seat vision of him. Anyways, by that time, the beat of the chant went to a high decibal, and these ladies started jumping up and down. (Adhennamo enaku artificial-a irundhadhu, en-na they stop when they are tired and smile to each other, and thideernu kaiya thookitu jump panranga..total bakti paravasam-na tiredness theriyuma?)
The clock struck 12, and the screen opened to show a *so beautiful* Radha Krishna...I was stupefied by the beauty of Lord Krishna and his consort, that for a few seconds I couldn't think of anything else. Wow, amazing!!! Appurama konjam vizhippu thatti, I prayed him, and decided others need a go to stand close to the idol, and left the place.
Thirumba vandhadhu oru kodumai, kadaisi train miss panni, mazhaila nanainju bus pidichu, national rail pidichu veetuku vandhu iniku joram vandachu :)) But, I still have that question in my mind, why Krishna? Is it because we need some identity as God and Krishna being popular was chosen, or is it that Krishna indeed is the best? Aana onnu, I appreciate the people who dwell in the belief that there is Krishna for them and attain peace by thinking of him, blessed are the souls who have found their companion and guide :) Enna bhakti one should have to be able to make this society grow?
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since i was a ramakrishna matt student i was an agonist but not atheist ( partially) but would question vaikku vanthathu to mat people. once i happened to go to ISCON. fine i had read chaitanya prabhu books. ( one hyocrite - psuedoism prevails in my view)
semma argument and debate with a guy ( well educated foreigner) on iscon philosphoy and convinction. it was almost for more than a hour - people were crowding around us. normally iscons major principal is be patient enough to preach the philosphoes to other pulling them to their society.
at one stage - he lost is patience - he start shouting at me
" you are a blind- you live in a cave of darkness - you dont want to see light and you say all light peireces the eyes. - you are doing sin - you wont be salvated"
ennakku santhosham.. appa.. i said - my dear holy man - i am thankful to you - you made my day. I had been successful in loosing the faith of your principasls. You are no more a iscon guy.
he got pizzed off.. he just moved away..
arru alathi alpa santhosham..
by the by... iscon na enna alquedana enna.. manusana koddumai paduthama irrutha serri than sami...
It really does not matter. Read my post on Tat tvam asi.
Nice post first time here...Came from Gils...
>>>Naan, being an agnostic\\
hmm nee first.. clear aah avarathu varaikkum.. un blog pera.. kodumai da AASAMI nu mathi vai...
neenga ellam ippadi pesikittu irukinga.. ana naam actor Ajith ennavo "Naan Kadavul" appadi nu avare solli..oru padam vera nadikarar...
indtha kadavul keerara illa ya.. love marriage better aah illa arranged marriage better aah.. nra mari oru kelvi dhan... it has no right answer...
namakku edhu suitable aah irukko adha edhukka vendi dhan.. ..
iskcon pona enaku bayam dhan varum... mass hysteria...
I had been to ISKCON, Bangalore twice ...To my surprise, i found huge folks in Cafeteria/shopping areas rather in Temple...:(
To be frank, i cudnt sense the 'sacred' atmosphere in ISKCON, Blore.U r lucky.! Prbly cuz of 'Jenmashtami'. :))
Trust me, too many questions will lead you in the path of 'solid atheism'...:))
So if u r okay for that, keep ur questions floating...Today u have 'why Krishna and why not other Gods...'
But I am sure, t'ow ur question will be something different :))
makku! makku! naan thaan en udippi postla pakkam pakkama ezhuthi iruken illa krishan is a sweet baby, gud frnd, philosopher, guide nu! paaru! veda vera azhagaa sollra. intha posta shree padichaa nee gaali magale! THOOKI POTTU MIDHIPPA UNNAI!
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Ambi..!! - Yen ipdi Usha va mirattureenga...:)) pavam antha ponnu..(??!) Yetho oru chinna kelvi kettutaanga...Thelivaana vilakkam sollunga avungalukku...like
"Usha, Go by Majority ...Aanmeegathula, ipdi chinna pulla thanama,kelvi kekka kudathu; Appo thaan uur poi sera mudiyum" nnu :))
Hey.! i am not an atheist :)
Nice post! I too agree and think how people worship idols - that is in their belief. Belief makes the difference
Abt Krsna being the king and other demi gods are minsters is just an analogy that was given to you to make you understand the different enery levels and if you remember he said exactly that krsna is at different enery level and vishnu is also krsna but at an enery level lesser...
neenga unga understanding vachindu paartha endha mythologylayum logic villangadhu ammani...
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@usha - krishna, per rajesh and veda has commented, has attracted people and is considered as supreme god. my guess is that after jesus, mohammad, siddhartha, et.al., each religion started identifying their prophets. in hindu religion, krishna turns out to be the last incarnation and so he was chosen. moreover unlike other incarnations, this guy has lead his life in a simple manner (remember, 'karthar anga aadu meychar, kannan inga maadu meychar'). same story for the holy book - yethanayo gundu gundu vedas and upanishads irukkarache y Gita is chosen as hindu's holy book? u shld glance thro the divaprabhanthams - chance illa. yevanukka irundhalum konjoondu love varum krishna mela!
but in my view, ISKCON is a group formed to attract non-hindus and convert them to hindus, which is not a common activity in hinduism. (no offences meant here!)
@ambi - thambi, yenga ponalum yenna vittu kodukkadha un sahodharathuvathai yennanu solradhu - pullarikkudhu po. anyways usha kadaisiya krishnavoda azhagula mayangittadhala, mannichu vittutten. moreover veda's comments yenna rombove shanthapaduthiduthu.
@ram - true that a large crowd is always there in the cafteria only in ISKCON Bangalore. But summa solla koodadhunga rombo supera irukkum anga yella itemsume!!
@viji - it is not the god who is turning out things but yellame manushanga velai dhan. 'alleluah' madiri dhan 'hare krishna' vum.
athaavathu namma panna settai ellam avarum pannirukaar...athunaala krishna va ellorukum pudikum ada naamoda serndha party apdinu... :-)
vaishnav, nee agonist-nu ;-) theriyum, adhukaga foreigners ellam kooda kodumai paduthanuma enna?
rajesh, link?
veda, nijamave I appreciate your explanation, and I surely aint against Krishna. Enaku enna-na, idhellam theriyamaye oruthar jabam pannindu en than Krishna-va follow panrom-nu kooda theriyama irundhar-nradhudhan varutham.
kk, welcome here and thanks :)
vishy,periyavare...namaskaram!!
viji, :))
ram, enakum ISKCON blr-la adhe feelingdhan, I felt there is no sacred ambience there. he he, so question kekkadhanrenga..
ambi, veda azhaga solra correct, nee eppo azhaga sonna? Enaku theriyum shree vegundellam ezhuva-nu, infact i was thinking about her when I wrote this post. And nee correct-a azhaichindu vanta poliruke avala? But ava ennai midhikalaye ;-)
indianangel, welcome..you are right, actually.
anon, thalaiva/vi, ennoda understanding was supposed to have been enhanced by that discussion. That guy was telling me that there is a story like that..so naturally naan appadidhane yosipen? But still, why is Vishnu an energy level lesser?
shree, en sarba elarukum answer panninadhuku nanri :)
syam, enakum adhe doubtdhan, adhan Krishnar-a ellarukum pidichiruku pola..
ayyo..jorama..hmm..lighta quarter adicha ellam seri aaydum....
Hi Usha...
Unga blog appo appo padipen... :)
Ok the topic is very dear to me...Amm appa solli kuduthu..Indha kovil, poojai, punaskaram lam follow pannindruken...Naanum indha maadri question lam ketu nariyaaa vaangi kattindu irukken...
Unga post ku vandha comments lam padichen...and the closest one that made sense to me was vedha's! so ippodhaiku adhoda think pannaradhe niruthikkaren...
TC! :)
usha,
Krishna was believd to be the last of of Vishnu's avatars with Kalki pending. And there were many incidents reported by people like Thukaram, Namadev that they witnessed the Lord. These ppl have also sung millions of bhajans praising Krishna. Since all these happened in the 1600s the latest gains more popularity, so Krishna has a craze thats it.
i always believe faith over a thing is greater than the thing itself....be it religion or watever that's y u can see foreigners who don't even know d religion fully have faith over it.....wat say??? comin to the matter of krishna i think he's cherished because he's closer to reality than other gods i mean he passed thru every stage of life like v do...(atleast many kadhais say so)...
apparam one more thing...get well soon.... :)
//he he, so question kekkadhanrenga..//
Adada...thappa purinjuttu irukkenegale...Kelvi kekkathe nnu sollala...ketta yenna agumngrathaiyum sonnen..:)) Naa konja naal 'Poonul' illa ma irunthen, romba kelvi kettathaala...mudivu ipdi vibareethama ponalum pogum :))Athan warn pannen.
"Athan ponnunga poonal poottukka maataangale.!" nnu neenga nakkal vittalum ok :)) .
for me while i was in melbourne the nearest temple was ISCKON and i used to go there, whenever i felt let down...
maybe the founder was a great devotee of krisna...anyways havta appreciate these people for spreading the name.
ada aninyamay...isckon poitu en krishnara kumbudraanganna..ennatha solrathu..nalla vela..dargah poitu jesusa kaanumenu thedama iruntheley..santhosam....kuttichaathanuku kadavul baktilaam unda...saathan vedam oadhumnu kelvi patruken..bajanailaam attend panra baktimayamana KCya inga thaan pakren :D
i went to one marwari temple 2 kms frm my plc...at 11pm we reached the temple.....oru aunty mikela hare rama krishnanu usha uthup mathiri different tones paadindu irunthaanga...semma voice...still resonating....krishnar seri cute...north indian saamilaam paaka super azhaga iruku...namma oorla mattum en oily facea vachirukaanga...any tots on tht?..at 12 sharp the bday celebrations began...kutti krishnarai..naanum thotilla poatu aatitu sweet saaptu vanten :)
Iskon pathi idea illa..bbut bangalore la irukkura iskon temple a vikkra cake enakku romba pudikkum..ennada..usha tirunthittangala no complains nu yosichen..gud gud..malai scene vanthathu~
@shuba:anga cake vikarathunu sonna ummachi kaathu kuthidum..athellam prasadam...
labaks, appove ninaichen, ippadi oru comment varum-nu..enpa naan enna kadavul nindhanai-a pannen?
Ajay, naanum adhan pannen. poye poch! ;)
curious, welcome here..appo appo vandhalum adhuku thanks :) naan vangi kattindadhilla, irundhalum arguments-la mattiruken
ram, hmm..maybe
golmaalgopal, hereon you will be called gg..romba kashtama iruku avaloo periya per okva? correct, andha faith-kagadhan naanum kelvi ketten! And thanks for the concern :)
ram, poonul-e pottukaradhillaya? abacharam!! recent-a discuss pannindhen edhuku poonul potukareenga guys-nu, yarkume badhil therila :))
senthil, Sri PrabhuPada was a great devotee, adu correctdhan.
gils, kuttisathan appapo nalla kuttisathana maarum, appuram thideernu back to normal vandhudum, adhu nalla KC-a irukarache adhuku per usha ;)
shuba, prasadam-nu gils solradha appadiye eduthukadha, enakum adhe doubt dhan, adhu eppadi prasadathai vippa? oops, tirupathi-layum adhan nadakudho??
ada..vikarathunu en paakareenga...athuvum oru vida kaanikai thaan...aana vikara edam per madapallinu vaikkama restaurantnu poatrupaan...slighta anga thaan idikithu..kannadathila madapallikku equivalent term restauranto??
//thambi, yenga ponalum yenna vittu kodukkadha un sahodharathuvathai yennanu solradhu - pullarikkudhu po. //
@shree, he hee, danks yekkaa, naama oru kodiyil pootha iru malargal :)
@usha, cha! just missu! iru, iru! shree kitta thirumbi maatamaiyaa pova? appa iruku unakku pongal & theevaali! :)
"Oiyee" Nan yengayum pogala ingadhan irruken seriya..., ippo
Aiya konjam busy be back to comment..
Adhu yenne comment, "Hey ennaya, you too??" Adhu kulla sollam poiruvena?? ;)
Saggistica
I've been to ISKCON B'lore. But Good to know from the comments abt Krishna's acceptance.
Who is God? Let me throw my 2 cents. God is just an invisible power and we give form to it. As you pointed out, "I believe every human needs an entity to place trust and belief on..".that's the fact..I see that power as Ganesh, some see it as Shiva others as Vishnu some others as Jesus..that's it.
Usha - Neenga yennoda comment aa thappu thappa padikureenga...adi vaanga pooreenga...Konja naal poottukkama irunthen nnu thaan sonnen...'past tense','past tense', nnu onnu kelvi patrukkeengala? :-D
Thanks for visiting my travel blog, my regular blog is here. Hope to see you around.
yenung, kadai'a open panniteeengala? idha ellam solradu illai'a? sare sare, edho valakam pola mooodithaan irrukumnu, naanum unga blog'a visit pannaaama vittuten....
//adi vaanga pooreenga//
@ram, pls antha nalla kaariyatha seekram pannu. also un a/c no sollu.
//'past tense','past tense', nnu onnu kelvi patrukkeengala?//
unakku theriyaatha? ushaku kovam vanthaa thaan peter vuduvaa LOL :)
// ushaku kovam vanthaa thaan peter vuduvaa //
LOL.
I wonder how come u get lots of questions on ur mind ;-)
// ushaku kovam vanthaa thaan peter vuduvaa //
hahaha...gud one...
enna usha, ram, gils nu ooree kai kotti sirikuthu polirukku, very gud, very gud. :)
epdiyum ennai thittuva, avalaiyum serthu thittu coz sirichathu avanga thaan. naan summa kindi vitten avloo thaan!
ambinu yaarunga ungaluku per vacha..vambinu maathikongo...
happada...naanum unnai maadhiri case thaan....agnostic. Kovil kulam ellam verum prasaadam vaangardukku mattum pora goshti. Janmaashtami na veetula pandra sweet thingaradu mattumae en kadamai. Aama...unakku en inda kelvi kettu torture pandra veali ellam?Romba vettiya irundiyo??
//ambinu yaarunga ungaluku per vacha..vambinu maathikongo... //
thoda, yaarum enakku apdi yellam peru vekkalai. yenpa! ushavai paarthu sirichathu nee! pattam enakkaa? grrrrr.
Ambi.!!! Me, Back in Blore. :)
aanalum unga aapu pattam super .. :).. atha vida vera pattm venuma ungalukku
Long time sin ce i dropped in here..good write up as usual Usha.
ippovum train miss pannitiya..remmebr your first day to office in london..i cant forget that
just happened to come across ur blog spot.. and read a couple of them... wasnt really interested in blogs b4.. but should really say that the way u pen them is real good... but I had to create a new accnt on blogspot just to tell u this... :(.. huh..
kodumai panrathunnu mudivu panina pinn.. yara iruntha enna.. eheiehi
usha your next blog makes some sense to me but your last question makes me answer "to know why krishna" - you gotto go and listen baghavadham...by krishna premi swamigal...or you got to read thru the book of baghavadham...where it talks about krishna and krishna bakthas...then you'll realize why krishna...and more over...krishna was a raja putra by birth...remember vasudeva was a king but he was imprisoned by kamsa...and then he was brought up like a yadva where he didnt had much of wealth to enjoy, then kamsa vadham...then he came to hastinapuram to save his bakthas(relatives too)....then soo on if i have to tell that i would require a blog to rite
In all Avathars, Rama avathaaram oru thani manushan eppadi vaalanumnu solluradhu.. Krishna avathaaram manusha samudhaayam mothamum eppadi irukkanumnu solluradhu.. Immaikku ramayanam, Marumaikku Geethai..
Oru manishan thannai pola saadhaaranamaana aana thannai vida rombavum sakthi adhigamaana oruthanai thaan kumbidanumnu nenaippaan.. Valikaatiyaa eduthuppaan.. Andha vagaila krishna oru Thalaivan, valikaati, ellarum namba thagudhiyana kadavul.
Andha kurumbu guname nammala attract pannidum illaya... Radhave kadhalil bakthi appidingara thathuva uruvam thaane..
every human needs an entity to place trust and belief on, so that he can shift his burden on that entity.. Correct.. And Krishna roopam is not beyond that.
(Replying: to a 2006 blog! but still..)
Hi,
Read your blog post with interest and some of the comments that followed. In your blog, you had asked a very intelligent question about why Krishna consiousness ? rather than Vishnu consiousness, this I felt is totally valid and made me think. Srila Prabhupada's the founder of ISKON focused ISKON's objective and functions towards a very idealistic scripture of Sanatana Dharma which is "Bhagavath gita", most of us know that verses in Bhagavath gita is conversation/dialogue between the Divine nature (Krishna) - depicted as an epitome of supraconsiousness and confusions of a Human mind (Arjuna) on existence, living, action and laws of nature that govern beings. These confusions that Arjun had is slowly being clarified by Krishna who takes Arjuna to a new level of consiousness, ineffect making him cross many levels of consiousness methodically and realise the truths.
Srila Prabupada would have wanted this to happen primarily in the society where he could use the scripture of Bhagavath gita which is simple and fun to understand by most people towards taking their first steps in elevating their consiousness, especially for the western mind. Vedas and Upanishads are heavy subjects for starters and thus were not in the focus primarily, also are the Gods Shiva and Vishnu where philopsophy surrounding them are more deep and they are far advanced for those opting the Bhakti traditions. This I think could be a primary reason of why it was named Krishna Consiousness, moreover ISKON isnt about selling Krishna or Vishnu but making realise the importance of achieving the level of Consiousness as prescibed in the Gita.
In one of the comments a reader had said that the "Holy Book" of Hindus is Bhagavath Gita, though it is an accepted High shool level of information for simplifying things, it is misconstrued and the reality is not so, infact in real Hinduism isnt a religion at all, rather it is a collection of various philosophies, and faith structures that come under what is being termed as 'Sanatana Dharma' and it doesnot prescribe any specific "Holy book" that one should follow pedantically, its a fact that even only a handful of Hindu's! would have ever read the Bhagavath gita or the Vedas. The gita is more of a quick reckoner rather than a final edition for someone following these philosophy of Sanatana Dharma.
PS: I would like to add here that I am not an ISKON member or follow any cult but just a curious onlooker like many doesnot believe in any Religion per se though investigating divinity in a broadsense.
Keep up the good work.
hello!! i am here for the first time and wonder for wat the platform was started!! anyway i agree with usha..of late the iskcon movement seems to b bent upon in dragging the atheist n non-hindus into their web..i have been to iskcon blore and its more like a commercial sight seeing place than a place of worship.everything there is made attractive n u r lost so much in it dat u forget the intention of visiting dat place.in old temples even today the inside atmosphere is dimly lit and it is only in the garbagriham that light is more n dat 2 focussed on the god's idol so that people concentrate on the god rather than the external atmosphere.vice versa in iskcon where there r so many distractions.if u r a bangalorean n a true krishna devotee u will swear by the old krishna temple in malleshwaram than the beautiful iskcon temple.u hardly get any bhakthi nor r u able to concentrate on god in these temples!!
naanum neraya vaati poiruken krishna temple , pona vudane suthi patha oree peria seena irukum,kandukave koodathu ,mothella 6-7 yrs before nalla sapadu irukum poi nalla sapittuvittu vanthuduvan, anaa ippa neraia namma uru student pailunga appadiyee mellama ellathiam amukidurangee krishna rama wesam poduranga, onnumepuriyela ketta kalam ANAAA ONUU USHA NEE PONA ANNAIKU VUNAKKU SORU PODALA ATHANALA ROMBA KOVAM , ATHAKUMELA MAZHAI JURAM VERE NEE APADITHAN EZHUTHUVA THIL THASTHI. MAMIYAR VEETUKU PONAL PERIYA APPU THAN UNAKU
I have seen somebody ask "So why not Vishnu consciousness (afterall Vishnu-oda avataram dhane krishnar) or Brahma or Shiva or even Lakshmi?"
Those who consider demigods Brahma and shiva on an equal level with Narayana (Vishnu, Krishna, Perumal, Govinda..) is the greatest of offenses.
-- Bhagavath Gita
Refer the Acharya the most known Acharya Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami rather than arguing with me.
The offense committed above is Bhagavath abacharam directly to Maha Vishnu.
The questioner has zero knowledge about who God is. This will not exclude him from getting punished.
It is just like a fire and when it is touched even by a baby it will not spare the baby telling oh it is a baby so I need not burn it.
Krishna un meyyarivai indha vindrium ponnukku kattu!
Krishna un Meignana meyyarivai indha vindarium Vignana ponnukku kattu!
Meignanam veetil anbai kodukkum
Vignanam Anu Gundai kodukkum
Krishna Krishna!
Kalki varama patthukkoppa....
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